I hate to burst your bubble, but we're not discussing a fancy HDTV with fake frames. These are actual factual PC monitors with 120Hz refresh which are, to put it less than accurately, factory "overclocked".
Blue fans AND blue memory heatsinks on a team red build?
How dare you go against the rules.
Build looks good though. :D
The price of this build is not really all that outrageous IMO.
A while back I made a list which I titled "2D/3D Vision Surround" and tried my best to choose relatively low cost parts to assemble a system that could handle ~6000x1080p 16xAF FXAA + PhysX.
After weeks of researching every part and scowering the GeForce forums and other 3D related sites, the total cost was between $6500-$7000. I even chose the cheapest combination of cpu+mobo that had enough pcie "lanes" which was the ECS golden z77 board with 3770k cpu.
My favorite video was the fan bloopers!
Who doesn't like free stuff???
Too bad I don't really need it else I'd be all over this sweet package.
How many 2.5 inchers can squeeze in there?
I stopped listening to LinusTT when I witnessed him "prove" that running two GTX cards in SLI made no difference whether or not the second slot was running at x4.
I just finished watching the build video.
Love how your build area is nice and clean looking.
Mine is littered with tools and junk!
Excellent point. Going with the FM2 socket is likely to be a dead end if you ever wanted to install a proper dedicated GPU that requires moar CPU power than the current APUs can provide.
I guess it won't hurt if momz haz moar power than she actually nihdz :D
Sound Card: Necessary if you are accustomed to enjoying superior audio in games especially if you prefer to play with a headset and do not own a home theater receiver.
Onboard audio is OK for the masses but if you do not own an audiophile sound system and actually know a thing or two about audio then the true answer is yes...you should add a sound card.
But don't take it from me. Purchase the system, get it all put together and test the sound quality for yourself. Adding in a sound card later wont be a big deal and you could even resort to one of the external doohickles (which i personally would not use).
What an awesome build for 2D Surround mode!
Portrait or Landscape? Bezel corrected?
Personally...I'd have gone with the Crucial M500 960GB SSD instead of 2x 840 Pro. Then again, I'm not sure when you specced this build out either. Two 840Ps might be faster but the storage capacity of m500s are great as well as the $/GB, not that it matters for these type of builds.
Can't hardly wait for the in-depth show n' tell :D
Normally with this much budget I would say go for an Intel build...but, dang.....you really found some good combos/deals there :D
Only thing is you might be paying too much for your PSU...but it is great quality unit so maybe it's worth it.
I would say that if you do pick a z77 board to pair with your unlocked processor, then another look must be made at the PSU if you intend to overclock both the processor and graphics card. Though 430w is enough in theory, probably not worth the risk a year or two down the road ;)
Your list looks spot on and $3.40 under budget, too!
Though it may be possible to squeeze in a GTX 770 GPU if you picked cheaper RAM and PSU, mobo, etc etc...but honestly, nothing at all really needs to be changed. Very respectable gaming build, IMO.
Like this one: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vg278he
I should also add that a GTX 780 3GB is overkill for a single 1080p monitor unless it has a 120Hz refresh rate ;)
Like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vg278h
If the second monitor is not to be used for gaming then you should go with a single GTX 780 3GB GPU.
If you're thinking about multi monitors for gaming then I would suggest three monitors. Of course, speccing out a build for three monitors would send the price north of $2000 even at 1080p resolution.
Low budget gaming builds generally do not afford luxuries such as low power consumption, low heat and low noise with few exceptions. Efficiency and quiet computing for a gamer usually costs moar, unless your gaming is very casual. PCIe 3.0 won't matter unless you plan on keeping the system for a long time and plan on upgrading the CPU/GPU at some point. There's no chance in hades that pentium can feed the GPU during intense gaming and not a chance the GPU will ever saturate your pcie lanes especially with that CPU.
Honestly, if your budget is so low that you are choosing a pentium CPU to pair with an otherwise decent GPU, then I'd suggest looking to an AMD APU build, or perhaps waiting a bit longer to save up cash for a proper CPU to pair with the 7870.
Of course, if you intention all along was to use the pentium as a slot filler until you get a proper CPU, then disregard everything I've said and carry on :D
Only thing I would change here is the case.
I still don't know what your budget is...so I picked out a list that is similiar to my own build with a few adjustments. This system will play BF3 with all the eye candy, can be overclocked and costs ~$1000.00
Because you want fast and cheap that means you don't get the latest greatest platform. You get last years platform with current gen GPU. No difference for gamers, the only real difference is lower price ;)
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Later down the road if mom decides she need moar power, then upgrade the PSU to a 450w SFX and add an HD 7750 GPU for dual graphics or as a dedicated GPU. Throw in an aftermarket cooler and OC the APU.
This kind of budget would be better for an AMD APU build, IMO.
You could probably get an a10-6800K with cheap A75 mATX mobo and 8GB of DDR3-2133MHz RAM. Combine that with an el cheapo 250GB HD and cheapest optical drive. Lastly, I would go with a mATX mini tower that includes a decent PSU, such as from Topower or some other semi-reputable budget PSU outfit.
Lemme see if I can get a list going for ya
The gtx 770 4GB is overkill unless you are running a very high resolution or multiple monitors, and if you are, one won't be enough for mult-monitor with high image detail.
I wouldn't personally combine the two unless i was going to build a passively cooled silent system or something like it. I totally agree with you here.
True, I've read some reports that Dual Graphics does indeed provide a nice performance boost in some games but even so I'd still take an i3+6670 for a passively cooled light gamer over the hot APU+6670 dually setup.
Also heard a rumor the 7750 is now a DG option too :D
I was going to submit a part list...but the problem is you want a silent system.
A silent PC with your intended use and budget just isn't practical. You could, however, easily build a quiet system.
The EVGA GTX 780 3GB Superclocked comes with the same superior (and quiet) blower as the GTX Titan and I believe a great choice.
You said you want a 27" 144Hz monitor and their is really only one choice: Asus.
Now if you need help choosing the rest of the components I'd be glad to help but first I must ask if you will ever possibly install another expansion card other than a GPU?
I only ask because that will determine whether or not you should go with a mITX or mATX motherboard.
Rememer guy, he is likely to want to achieve 100+ fps MINIMUM in order to justify purhcasing monitor with high refresh rate. OP was on the right track to start with and downgrading the GPU in this situation is not ideal for someone who is unlikely to run system beyond spec.
The monitor does not need be included in price, either ;)
Despite the fact that APUs can indeed be used for gaming....this gamer would never recommend it to someone with a budget over ~$500. An i3 CPU + 6670 GPU make an a10-6800k look like a childs toy processor and little Gina could use her easy bake oven as a chassis to house it.
In fact, the only time I would ever recommend an APU would be for an mITX build in a chassis without an expansion slot or for someone on an extreme tight budget.
Sorry for the delay...I fell asleep at the wheel again :D
I won't comment on a build for BF4, but I do know for sure that running BF3 on high setting without too much AA doesn't actually require expensive hardware anymore unless you have a giant monitor with high resolution, multiple monitors for 2d/3d surround or a 1080p monitor with 120Hz refresh rate and you intend to play with vsync on or otherwise hope to acheive 120 fps minimum.
I can build out a fast 'n cheap part list for playing BF3 but it would be helpful to know whether or not you need a complete system or just the case with internal parts? What screen resolution will you play at? Do you need an Operating System or not? Optical drive or do you install the OS with a USB drive that you already have?
Lastly, how much money do you have for this build?
There is good, fast and cheap. Pick two :D
Depends on how much your time is worth, I guess. .5GHz extra for general usage browsing isn't going to be worth $20 extra, but if you are using the processor for workloads where time is money then $20 is money well spent for time saved waiting for computer to respond.
oh, too late :D
I was going to ask, what screen resolution you are going to play on.
Both. However, at that budget level you could downgrade the first build with some of the parts from the second build to keep the gaming edge of the 3570k + 760 2GB.
You might be better off to drop the 6570 and switch to an high end AMD APU and motherboard combo with 8GB RAM of the highest frequency you can afford. Then add the 7770 GHz later as planned.
I got tired of waiting for ivb-e and built a small z75 mATX system to check out the new games before going whole hog on the 2d/3d surround on enthusiast platform.
Now that I played the games on 120Hz monitor...i want moar!
You know how it is :D
2D/3D surround at 1080p will most likely require in excess of 2GB VRAM. You lose :p
no prob. AMD or Intel either way soon you'll be enjoying yourself :D
That's about as good as it will get for ~900. Two thumbs up on this part list :D
Plenty of OC headroom on the PSU and AMD CPU+GPU you can't really go wrong with that.
Just thought I'd mention this case is a MicroATX Mid Tower.
An ATX motherboard is not compatible. The part list puts this in the ATX mid tower group.
I can understand why you would want such a feature, but really, if you don't need more than 8GB then it makes no sense to purchase more (except when prices are at low point, which they are not currently), even if the deal saves money. Besides, you don't need to see a list of memory to know that buying more "saves money", because 95% of the time buying more costs less per GB.
What would make sense is you figuring out how much RAM you need/want and then do the price shopping from there. That will save you all the headache of multiple searches ;)
It might help if they would start adding that second USB 3.0 port on the front. I mean, gee whiz, this is one of their new release models but still only one port. /rollseyes
I wish Gigabyte would release an updated version of their old ram expansion card :D
Way way back in time I used to setup a ram drive on my old 386sx16 for number crunching while I was away at school during the day. I used ancient hardware to crack the best encryption at the time. Of course today the encryption has improved dramatically...but I like a challenge :D
A 3 pin fan connected to 4 pin header will work but probably without any sort of fan control, depending on motherboard.
A 4 pin fan connected to 3 pin header will also work but the fan will rotate at full RPM regardless of system load or temp.
quote "Am I missing something?"
Yes. When the processor launches you will find out what you are missing ;)
There's no point in discussing a build so far in the future.
Oh I read it all right, but that doesn't change anything because in this case you are wrong. Out of all the micro atx mini tower chassis the tj08 is probably the best choice for a dual GPU configuration. Not that I would personally recommend it but my opinion doesn't change the facts.
What I see here is a person wanting to help others, and that is great, but it sure isn't fair to those seeking help that the most active helper is regurgitating generic information without fact checking and routinely ignoring basic submitter details.
I think we both agree dual GPU is not a great idea in this specific situation, however, the chassis chosen by the submitter is more than capable.
Try not to lose sight of the submitter details. It's easy to forget but he said the case was decided on and so you should build a list around that. Nothing wrong with your list, but maybe you overlooked that part ;)
Future-proofing on that time scale is foolish. You selected parts should be plenty good for at least three years gaming if we are talking about games currently available.
In three to five years a second 7950 is unlikely to be of any use.
In three to five years an i7 isn't going to be much of an upgrade from an i5 that can overclock to similar speeds.
In three to five years the price of DDR3 will be so high you wont want to pay the price.
In my 30 years experience the only parts that routinely are worthy of future-proofing are the case, PSU and monitor. Forget everything else.
Normally I would agree but in this case I'm trying to scrape the bottom and an OS on top adds an extra $100 to your part list total. Thanks for trying but I was wondering just how low I can go here. Maybe you are right and I can't go any lower :D
You forgot the OS ;)
Downgrade CPU to i5 3570k and upgrade GPU to GTX 660ti or 670.
That is all.
I would like to say thanks for all the help. Even though ultimately I ordered most parts from the same site, it was very helpful to have a list to work from and of course the helpful comments. It took two orders and three weeks of tinkering, but now I think it's time for some pics.
Thanks again everyone :D